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Thank you Miss Saigon. Flat earth is one way to start looking at the lies, mine was 9/11 after which nothing seemed to fit any more. 

The Castañeda idea is also  good to take as a picture. It seems the same as nowadays is said to switch from duality to unity consciousness where all the attachments vanish, although  one has to be careful to define unity consciousness. It’s not that we are all the same (hive mind), just that we have remembered who we are outside the matrix.

The picture of “cracks” in the matrix we can slip through, but most will not reach one of those cracks seems just a symbol who can produce the intent/intention to follow once inner wisdom/discernment untouched by the “artificial net”.

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I just saw the MESSENGER, series 6 with Rolf Nuyts. (He could have told more but was cut short, unfortunately, and there does not seem to be English versions on the net). There are some aspects in that which fills out some of the questions here discussed. I also heard that from others and the most relevant thing in the moment of decision after death is REMEMBER who you are, always were, which is lodged  in your heart space, detached from all the matrix role playing you were engaged in. Everything you experienced here in the densest existence brought into equilibrium, everything sorted.

 

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Thank you, I found quite a bit on youtube – older audio files thankfully without advertising. Did not think they would be there. 

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Thank you Sai Gone. I assumed all here read or listened to David’s books. I meant Greene, Stellberg or Wes Penre. Of course, I did not assume to find them on Amazon Audible, but I hoped that some more esoteric book sellers might have an audible version, perhaps in German.

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My question – when I connect with nature, seeing the breathtaking beauty at one hand and the decay at the other – when it is just a bad copy of the “primary earth” where is it when everything is just consciousness which creates it’s experience? We could talk about “the fall” from the primary earth into the copy (matrix). The picture of the lion frolicking with the lamb is just another construct, or is there a real primary earth we could experience if we wanted after escaping the matrix?

And yes, I also agree that meditation can be quite misleading, especially all those “guided” meditation of self anointed new age gurus. But being still and listen to your inner voice is necessary to detach from all the matrix stuff whilst we still have to live in it.

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Hi there,

I just now detected this forum. Just what I was looking for after listening to Davids books. My eyes are not good for reading. Are some of these two books mentioned here also as audibles? I don’t mind if German or English.

I could look some more on the net, but reading is difficult, so I would be thankful for a link.

I am also not quite clear about “going into the Dark”, I would more call it going into the greyish ocean of consciousness before creation. Don’t know if this is discussed in those two books. That is what I visualize before going to sleep.

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